... and nothing else matters...

Written on 2003-01-16, at 5:23 p.m.

I present to you the following philosophical discussion, of sorts. Names have been changed to protect the innocent, and some of the text has been edited and cut just to keep things to the point. If you know me well enough to figure out whom any of the censored people are, do us all a favor and keep it to yourself. Many thanks. (By the way, God Bless Microsoft Word, and its ability to rapidly find and replace text.) If you’re too lazy to read through all of this, go ahead and jump to the bottom (past all of the red and blue) to get to the main point.

Some Dude I Know (3:39:25 PM): i quit
Some Dude I Know (3:39:32 PM): and i am thinking of quitting AIM
DumbGenius7 (3:39:38 PM): why?
Some Dude I Know (3:39:45 PM): you figure
DumbGenius7 (3:39:59 PM): well, i can imagine why. but still, is it really that bad?
Some Dude I Know (3:40:04 PM): that bad.
Some Dude I Know (3:40:06 PM): and then some
DumbGenius7 (3:40:09 PM): so bad that you'd have to quit d-land and aim?
Some Dude I Know (3:40:23 PM): dland, AIM, and maybe conversations in school
DumbGenius7 (3:40:28 PM): :-(
Some Dude I Know (3:40:33 PM): any human contact
DumbGenius7 (3:40:59 PM): awww, dude.... :-( cutting off all human contact won't help
Some Dude I Know (3:41:06 PM): whatever.
Some Dude I Know (3:41:09 PM): it's not like
Some Dude I Know (3:41:14 PM): talking to people will HELP?
Some Dude I Know (3:41:24 PM): since they don't care what really I am.
Some Dude I Know (3:41:28 PM): they talk behind my back
Some Dude I Know (3:41:45 PM): and they just make things up for me and treat as if i were just like the creation
DumbGenius7 (3:41:59 PM): dude, don't say that
Some Dude I Know (3:42:12 PM): no i HAVE to say it
Some Dude I Know (3:42:16 PM): people talk behind me
Some Dude I Know (3:42:19 PM): if they got issues,
Some Dude I Know (3:42:21 PM): talk to ME
Some Dude I Know (3:42:29 PM): they should.
DumbGenius7 (3:42:54 PM): *sigh* you elevate honesty above altruism. not everyone is the same way
DumbGenius7 (3:43:16 PM): even though they're not being entirely altruistic by not being honest
Some Dude I Know (3:43:27 PM): so i quit
Some Dude I Know (3:43:30 PM): i just quit
Some Dude I Know (3:43:44 PM): if they are neither going to be altruistic nor honest,
Some Dude I Know (3:43:45 PM): I QUIT
DumbGenius7 (3:44:12 PM): dude, please don't quit. the only thing any of us can do is hope that things will get better. if you quit, you give up all hope of that entirely
Some Dude I Know (3:44:33 PM): hope doesn't do anything
Some Dude I Know (3:44:35 PM): i hate humanity
Some Dude I Know (3:44:50 PM): i hate this deceptive selfish society
Some Dude I Know (3:44:54 PM): and i hate myself
Some Dude I Know (3:45:02 PM): and things wont get better
Some Dude I Know (3:47:22 PM): people talk behind my back,
Some Dude I Know (3:47:31 PM): not knowing my intentions
Some Dude I Know (3:47:32 PM): at all
Some Dude I Know (3:47:37 PM): and they think they know me
DumbGenius7 (3:48:25 PM): that's the way humanity is. but quitting won't get you anywhere. the best you can do is stick around, and hope that you can set an example
Some Dude I Know (3:48:46 PM): what example?
DumbGenius7 (3:49:09 PM): don't talk about people behind their back. be honest and true. live how you think everyone else ought to live
DumbGenius7 (3:49:16 PM): let them know it can be done
DumbGenius7 (3:49:29 PM): never give up, though.
Some Dude I Know (3:49:45 PM): i trusted people.
Some Dude I Know (3:49:46 PM): i did.
Some Dude I Know (3:50:45 PM): and i lose.
Some Dude I Know (3:50:50 PM): i fail and then lose again.

... cut out a big chunk here, again, to “protect the innocent.” Move along, there’s nothing to see here...

Some Dude I Know (4:00:45 PM): so, the conclusion is, who I am doesn't matter
Some Dude I Know (4:01:03 PM): who i seem, to the otehrs, is everything what matters
DumbGenius7 (4:01:41 PM): ... i wish I could tell you that that isn't true. but i'm afraid i learned it myself a long time ago :-(
DumbGenius7 (4:02:00 PM): the best you can do is try to seem to everyone else who you really are
DumbGenius7 (4:02:29 PM): and do your best to understand who everyone else really is
Some Dude I Know (4:02:34 PM): but how hard i try, i fail, since what I do rarely matters and i think you know that
DumbGenius7 (4:03:41 PM): it all depends on how you define "failure". and "matters".
DumbGenius7 (4:04:38 PM): and you can't just say "i don't matter" when you don't know what "matters" means
Some Dude I Know (4:05:16 PM): oh man. not this now
DumbGenius7 (4:05:26 PM): it's true, though
Some Dude I Know (4:05:27 PM): i think you know what i mean
Some Dude I Know (4:05:35 PM): i do think you do know what i do mean
Some Dude I Know (4:05:40 PM): and that's three 'do's
DumbGenius7 (4:05:51 PM): i know what you mean. but should you mean what you mean?
Some Dude I Know (4:06:04 PM): what?
DumbGenius7 (4:08:16 PM): you can, for instance, decide that you do not matter because you will not have a relationship with YYYY, or because people talk about you behind your back. Or, you can decide that you DO matter, because you don't need YYYY because she doesn't matter, and that you DO matter because people are concerned enough about you to talk about you at all. the worst thing in the world would be if NO ONE talked about you - that would be like you didn't exist, and then you certainly wouldn't matter to anyone
DumbGenius7 (4:08:20 PM): that clearly is not the case
DumbGenius7 (4:08:49 PM): people are worried about you, and that is why they talk. people care
Some Dude I Know (4:09:29 PM): or treat me as some inconvenience?
DumbGenius7 (4:10:59 PM): maybe you are an inconvenience, to some people. but then, THOSE PEOPLE don't matter. you have to understand, not all people are compatible with everyone. I am not compatible with XXXX, and so, i treat her as an inconvenience. you, on the other hand, i do not consider to be an inconvenience at all
Some Dude I Know (4:11:20 PM): mmm
DumbGenius7 (4:11:21 PM): maybe you should reconsider who you choose to hang out with
DumbGenius7 (4:11:52 PM): it's not necessarily their fault. they aren't necessarily bad people. nor are you a bad person. some people just don't "click"
Some Dude I Know (4:12:05 PM): i dont know
Some Dude I Know (4:12:25 PM): but i can't 'choose' them, as i can't choose when to die
DumbGenius7 (4:12:43 PM): this is part of the reason i want to continue human contact for as much as possible during this school year. i've begun to realize that i don't yet fully understand who I, myself, "click" with. i want to learn this. maybe you should try to do so, too
Some Dude I Know (4:13:11 PM): mmmmm
DumbGenius7 (4:13:23 PM): you can always choose
DumbGenius7 (4:13:48 PM): i also chose to block creepshit , btw, because i consider him to be an inconvenience

The story of Mr. Creepshit, btw, may be recounted here someday. All you need to understand right now is that he is someone that Dude, I, and a few others know.

Some Dude I Know (4:13:56 PM): mmm
DumbGenius7 (4:14:06 PM): which is entirely unfair, because i don't really know him, i must admit that
DumbGenius7 (4:14:39 PM): but again, it all boils down to about how people interpret you. i interpret creepshit to be a creepshit, because he randomly im'ed me and people i know one day, which appears to me as very creepy
Some Dude I Know (4:14:55 PM): yeah
DumbGenius7 (4:15:04 PM): and i'm sure that we both appear as pricks to him since we both blocked him
Some Dude I Know (4:15:36 PM): mm
Some Dude I Know (4:16:30 PM): the thing is, i don't know what (who) to trust anymore
DumbGenius7 (4:18:23 PM): I decided that i'd start off about now with everyone on a clean slate, and then go from there and figure out who to trust and who not to. XXXX, for example, has proven to me this year that she is a contemptible bitch, while I did not feel this way about her in the past.
Some Dude I Know (4:18:47 PM): how about me?
DumbGenius7 (4:19:00 PM): i trust you, yes. you've shown yourself to be very noble, in fact
Some Dude I Know (4:19:25 PM): eek i am noble?
Some Dude I Know (4:19:26 PM): how so?
DumbGenius7 (4:19:59 PM): you want to see better things in everyone, including yourself
DumbGenius7 (4:20:44 PM): and your intentions, as they appear to me (again, important), always seem to be good. you're never malicious or bad
Some Dude I Know (4:20:52 PM): mmm.
DumbGenius7 (4:20:53 PM): you don't want to do bad things to people
Some Dude I Know (4:20:59 PM): but i yelled at you
Some Dude I Know (4:21:05 PM): (again sorry for that)
DumbGenius7 (4:21:49 PM): and i understand that you're sorry for that, and that you were angry at the time. and that's understandable, there's nothing to apologize for, btw
Some Dude I Know (4:21:55 PM): ok. let me start. I trust you, because you put honesty above altruism and you keep the principle,
Some Dude I Know (4:22:02 PM): and you have altruism as well.
Some Dude I Know (4:22:05 PM): so i trust you.
DumbGenius7 (4:23:01 PM): as i appear to you, btw. but there are some people who would tell you that i am not to be trusted at all, my parents among them, and mr. sklar probably, too
Some Dude I Know (4:23:16 PM): my parents never trust me
DumbGenius7 (4:23:25 PM): because i don't always act altruistic and honest towards them

At which point, “Some Dude I Know” had to go. In any case, the main point is this:

Who ANY OF US are means absolutely shit in this world.

The only thing that matters is how you appear to others. So make the best of it – set an example. Do your best to act and live as you’d like people to remember you, and do your best to find out who people really are.

T.T.F.N.

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